tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post5310684241599461256..comments2023-07-17T09:54:31.556-05:00Comments on Hacking Christianity: Glenn Beck declares War on United MethodistsRev. Jeremy Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10137491388537194847noreply@blogger.comBlogger76125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-41323242991462603302010-08-28T15:42:35.611-05:002010-08-28T15:42:35.611-05:00This is why I don't attend church services any...This is why I don't attend church services anymore. I am so sick of going to church and having politics rammed down my throat. I don't remember anywhere in the Bible that Jesus commanded us to discuss politcs. My politics are just that ..........MINE!!! I don't need a preacher OR a radio host telling me what to do or believe. I am intelligent enough to decide on my own. If something Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-25415633674129557262010-08-19T09:20:33.029-05:002010-08-19T09:20:33.029-05:00Sorry, but Beck is correct. As a United Methodist ...Sorry, but Beck is correct. As a United Methodist member, this “social justice” tripe disgusts me to the point that I have left the church.<br /><br />The UM Social Principles creed is seemingly ambiguous and harmless enough at face value until reading a little further into the proclamations. At SP 163, The Economic Community, we begin to get a very clear understanding of exactly what the UM Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-66944863761137807052010-07-29T14:20:41.006-05:002010-07-29T14:20:41.006-05:00I left the Methodist Church almost two years ago f...I left the Methodist Church almost two years ago for two reasons. One, the extreme lack of preaching the Gospel. More often than not, our minister quoted some philosopher on what they thought people should be. I wanted to hear bible preaching, not Eckhart Tolle or some such. Second, I left because of the injection of politics and what we should be doing as a church with no emphasis on me as Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-1198178907061519722010-04-30T14:37:56.834-05:002010-04-30T14:37:56.834-05:00I am an United Methodist and I side with Glenn Bec...I am an United Methodist and I side with Glenn Beck. The church should not play partisan politics. Siding with one of the two major political parties will split the church. I doubt that anyone left because of what Glenn Beck said, but I believe that Nancy Pelosi's mention of the United Methodist Church immediately prior to calling for a vote on the very controversial health care bill did Sharon Campbellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-15061404112406710242010-04-16T15:59:41.622-05:002010-04-16T15:59:41.622-05:00You people are idiots. Maybe you should listen or...You people are idiots. Maybe you should listen or read Beck's comments in the context that they were meant. He did not attack the UMC or any other church, he was attacking pseudo-churches who preach redistributionism and marxism under the guise of "social justice". Beck donates a ton of money to many different charities - more than likely, he donates a much higher income Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-54710269611881384802010-03-29T12:56:41.690-05:002010-03-29T12:56:41.690-05:00Mike Q., you are right on and I couldn't have ...Mike Q., you are right on and I couldn't have said it better. Our country is divided. Considering the drop in membership of the UMC we need to be aware that we are alienating about half of our members.Jim H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-23381376290637853392010-03-28T16:15:35.708-05:002010-03-28T16:15:35.708-05:00Great discussion.
I think that Mr. Beck has it ri...Great discussion.<br /><br />I think that Mr. Beck has it right: social justice should be taught and practiced by the church, but not through the government.<br /><br />There is nothing charitable or spiritual in the government. There are countless examples of fraud, waste, and dishonesty. This is just a fact of history. Political leaders are not spiritual leaders, they will take what they wantDeannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-9967079411455146642010-03-25T11:44:36.080-05:002010-03-25T11:44:36.080-05:00The late Brazilian Archbishop Dom Helder Camara fa...The late Brazilian Archbishop Dom Helder Camara famously summed it up: “When I feed the poor, they call me a saint,” he said. “But when I ask why the poor are hungry, they call me a communist.” Both charity and justice are essential principles that must coexist together, not as competing claims on our conscience. When confronted with the moral scandals of poverty, war, and racism, Christians are Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-34119127980545123002010-03-22T21:28:36.848-05:002010-03-22T21:28:36.848-05:00Social Justice, is Socialism in the present term. ...Social Justice, is Socialism in the present term. Socialism is force, force is wrong. Communism is force and also wrong. <br /><br />The Church is taking us down the wrong path and not where Christ would lead us. It is too cozy with the UN and redistribution of wealth (Global Warming) schemes. I have made up my mind to leave and start looking for a new home.<br /><br />tjAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-45919512889775153142010-03-22T21:18:34.067-05:002010-03-22T21:18:34.067-05:00rev jeremy peters
acting on changing prisons is v...rev jeremy peters<br /><br />acting on changing prisons is very different than taking from one person, by force, to give to another. that is what socialism is, force, with badges and guns. <br /><br />this is about force vs. free will. are you about forcing someone to doing something or persuasion? <br /><br />tjAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-78711809117295819162010-03-22T21:11:17.067-05:002010-03-22T21:11:17.067-05:00Billy Gilson, Texas
I agree with you and now want...Billy Gilson, Texas<br /><br />I agree with you and now want to leave the UMC for their positions and actions. How can I be with a denomination that supports socialism, IE this health care bill with Nance Pelosi?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-56755656749114882272010-03-22T10:08:19.243-05:002010-03-22T10:08:19.243-05:00Much of this discussion is why people are leaving ...Much of this discussion is why people are leaving the mainline denominations in droves. They are tired of double talk. The are tired of people who want the government to play Robin Hood. And the mainline denominations need to get off the bandwagon. If you want to take a responsible look at Acts Chapter 2 you will see that they made a choice to share everything they had. I think it is the right Mike Qnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-34400959970421117282010-03-20T21:25:53.338-05:002010-03-20T21:25:53.338-05:00Hi
I am interested in the question of why we hav...Hi<br /> I am interested in the question of why we have become a punditocracy, that is we are seeing the pundits wield such power, seemingly more power than in other eras. Here's my initial thoughts:<br /> 1. Largescale distrust of government---JFK, MLK, RFK assassinations never fully dealt with. Even the 9/11 accounts are really wierd and suspect to a lot of people. Seems that there are Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-44845948065888444202010-03-20T07:19:42.639-05:002010-03-20T07:19:42.639-05:00Unfortunately, a lot of folks in this country embr...Unfortunately, a lot of folks in this country embrace this new McCarthyism and extreme right wing fear mongering...it's sad. That stuff is everything Christ is not. Jesus didn't need to scare and control people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-62156387280735331022010-03-20T06:56:30.922-05:002010-03-20T06:56:30.922-05:00I come from generations of Methodist Ministers in ...I come from generations of Methodist Ministers in my family in Ohio, PA, CA, and NC. They always wanted to help others in need.<br />I do not agree with Glen Beck. He is an evil man that wants to brain wash people who are willing to agree with a lunatic. Sorry. Fox news is out of control.<br />God Bless you all. Remember the Methodist Church is here to help people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-88347336001095573712010-03-19T18:23:13.196-05:002010-03-19T18:23:13.196-05:00Hello
Great discussion. Everyone. One theologic...Hello<br /> Great discussion. Everyone. One theological aspect left out is the tsedaqah u mispat words in the Old Testament. They are translated to mean righteousness and justice and used many times (Isaiah 9.7; Jeremiah 9.24; Psalms 33.5. The concept of justice is present in the very character of God (Psalm 33.5, Ps. 37.38, Ps. 99.4, Isaiah 61.8), and its not about an individualistic inner Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-50750160154590902062010-03-19T17:18:06.594-05:002010-03-19T17:18:06.594-05:00Quite a debate!
I'll add a thought from the hy...Quite a debate!<br />I'll add a thought from the hymn: "The Church's One Foundation" set to music by Samuel S Wesley in 1864:<br /><br />Though with a scornful wonder we see her sore oppressed, <br />by schisms rent asunder, by heresies distressed<br />yet saints their watch are keeping, their cry goes up, "How long?"<br />and soon the night of weeping shall be the Methodist in Chilenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-46330065954699410832010-03-19T10:35:09.093-05:002010-03-19T10:35:09.093-05:00I must be Anonymous #2, posting #56, if I cn find ...I must be Anonymous #2, posting #56, if I cn find a way to identify myself... I co pletely agree with the other Anonymous, it is about time the church start doing the things Jesus expects us to be doing. Spiritual growth is not measured in degree of commitment to social activisim, but love for God and for His creatures. I am tired of the alliance the upper echelons of the church have with liberalRev. Dr. Frederick M. Monkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03456573715072301525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-87187814880174631742010-03-19T09:59:16.073-05:002010-03-19T09:59:16.073-05:00Well I won't remain anonymous. I am fascinate...Well I won't remain anonymous. I am fascinated and disappointed at the same time that so many mainline denominations have become so political. STOP trying to push health care through. STOP trying to get gay marriage legal. STOP calling illegal immigrants "undocumented." STOP marching for abortion rights. <br /><br />In stead START living like Jesus did. If you want to really Mike Q.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-64845830486606493922010-03-18T23:23:29.013-05:002010-03-18T23:23:29.013-05:00I'm fascinated by the stark difference between...I'm fascinated by the stark difference between comments by people who identify themselves and comments by people who choose to remain anonymous.<br /><br />I don't know why it surprises me; it's been that way since forever.Matt Algrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09626052718821794580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-34906335019138647112010-03-18T10:19:56.075-05:002010-03-18T10:19:56.075-05:00I also listened to the radio that day. I don't...I also listened to the radio that day. I don't usually care for or listen to Glenn Beck, not because of political stance, but because of his style and the time he is on. I find it troubling that this blog starts without stating the whole truth about what Glenn said. He never said that he was against social justice, only that he was against what many on the left refer to as social justice. He Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-89023091829705324932010-03-17T22:35:54.022-05:002010-03-17T22:35:54.022-05:00I didn't feel like making an account so please...I didn't feel like making an account so please forgive my not having an identity. <br /><br />Perhaps we should read the Bible, quit depending on people for guidance, and ask God what he wants us to do. Through his spirit, we should get the guidance we need. This type of debating is why the secular world is turning their back on the Church. By the way, as a whole for the US, how are the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-27763233459239645052010-03-17T20:51:24.531-05:002010-03-17T20:51:24.531-05:00#47 is spot on! And Godwin's law is just more...#47 is spot on! And Godwin's law is just more politically correct BS. I, too, have read Mein Kampf as well as studying literature of the Holocaust, War and Peace and Doctor Zhavago. (yes, I know that the latter 2 are fiction, but they give us a view into the mindset of the time.) Unless we study the past we will fall into the same old traps. Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Chavez all used the Monanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-12670685098127674822010-03-17T12:43:17.167-05:002010-03-17T12:43:17.167-05:00From "pastorbecca"
"should we run ...From "pastorbecca"<br /><br />"should we run from a church that preaches that? "<br /><br />If a church preaches that we should do all those things via government mandate, then YES!!! We *should* run from that church.<br /><br />There's nothing charitable or Christlike about "giving" when it's done by threat of fines and/or imprisonment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4152029133681792030.post-56552829199337936772010-03-17T11:56:02.363-05:002010-03-17T11:56:02.363-05:00To look at this from another angle, what economic ...To look at this from another angle, what economic system *does* the Bible advocate? I don't believe it is Capitalism.SusanHuntnoreply@blogger.com